Thursday, August 07, 2008

Olympian spirit.

Re-post from April.

Tuesday, April 01, 2008

The van of death


China is taking high tech to a whole new level. Could this be coming soon to a Wal-mart near you?

VAN SPECS


Cost: $37,500 to $75,000, depending on vehicle's size
Length: 20 to 26 feet
Top speed: 65 to 80 mph

THREE SECTIONS

Execution chamber: in the back, with blacked-out windows; seats beside the stretcher for a court doctor and guards; sterilizer for injection equipment; wash basin
Observation area: in the middle, with a glass window separating it from execution area; can accommodate six people; official-in-charge oversees the execution through monitors connected to the prisoner and gives instruction via walkie-talkie.
Driver area

Production to date: at least 40 vehicles, made by Jinguan and two other companies in Jiangsu and Shandong provinces



Re-post from April 2008
Says Greg Palast today:
McCain's plan to spend endless billions on nuclear plants without a waste disposal system in place is like building a massive hotel without toilets. I suppose you can always tell the guests to poop in buckets until someone comes up with a plan for plumbing. But the stuff piles up. And unlike the fecal droppings of tourists, nuclear waste will stay hot and dangerous for a thousand generations.
Thuggery worthy of the Dick and Bush

From MSNBC/ Washington Post This Morning

By Edward Cody
updated 12:47 a.m. MT, Thurs., Aug. 7, 2008


To prevent (Olympic) protests inside their own borders, Chinese authorities recently threatened to take away one female activist's two babies as she tried to enter the country. A Tibetan woman surnamed Kemo was returning to China on July 18 after nearly two years in the United States, where she had had two children. She was stopped by a passport control officer, escorted to an interrogation room and asked whether she had ever participated in political protests.

Video
China's extra eyes
Aug. 6: With exclusive access inside the Olympic security command center, NBC’s Richard Engel reports on heightened security for the Games.

Nightly News

"Yes, but a long time ago," Kemo said she replied, speaking on the condition that her first name not be used. Officers then showed her computer printouts of photos of her participating at various U.S. protests. "You are lying to us," an officer told her.

Officers pried the children away from her, slapping her and one of her children when he clutched her purse strap to prevent her from being taken away, she said.

The officer then gave her a choice: accept deportation and buy plane tickets to take her children back to the United States or go to jail and lose her children. After she bought the tickets, police escorted her to the next flight to New York and returned her children on the jetway to the airplane.

Climate Change?

Email exchange between Ray Hudson and me this morning:

----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Hudson
To: Kim Walker
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:41 PM
Subject: Crumbling Away

Kim,

The propaganda of Anthropocentric Global Warming (AGW) is crumbling all around the priests and zealots who abuse science. I know you will never admit that these clowns are wrong, and are doing “bad science”, but it is becoming more and more clear. Check out my last two posts in RU on the political spin thread. There is no valid scientific refutation of the issues I raise in these posts. None.


Gore is toast. He should be thrown in jail for lies and falsifying science to meet a political agenda!

R


Rainman,
I think it's quite obvious that the human race requires three environmental principles in order to thrive: clean air, clean water and fertile soil. Regardless of the debate concerning climate change these three elements are being destroyed at an exponential rate by the over-use of fossil fuels. The cause? Overconsumption/ production brought about by overpopulation. The Malthusian knot. That's the real crisis. I think we're about to witness the consequences, at least in terms of the atmosphere, in this communist Olympic bullshit. When people require respirators simply to breath and have to drink water out of bottles- we've got a problem. Don't you think? Personally I don't need Algore to alert me to this. I can plainly see the air being turned into smoke.
Kim

Wednesday, August 06, 2008


From Gary Bekkum yesterday:


Tuesday, August 5, 2008

AFP News: DIA Involved in Spy vs Spy on the Internet

According to this interesting news release from AFP:

... the Defense Intelligence Agency is being given a larger
mandate to pursue the "strategic offensive counter-intelligence operations" as part of a reorganization approved late last month.
Gary made this very point in his blog many months ago- especially in regards to the leaking of DIA information/disinformation on the forum, Reality Uncovered.

Is Reality Uncovered a tool of the DIA? Certainly at least 2 0f the half dozen active posters there boast of having 'security clearances' of some sort while a third, the site administrator, actively consorts with known intelligence operatives- who have even been known to post there on occasion.

Tuesday, August 05, 2008

Uri Avnery's Column
Hollow Time

Hollow Time


EHUD OLMERT'S resignation speech reached us on our way back from a demonstration.

We were protesting the death of Ahmad Moussa, aged 10, who was murdered during a demonstration against the Separation Fence at Na'ilin village - the fence that robs the village of most of its land in order to give it to the nearby settlement. A soldier aimed and shot the child with live ammunition at close range.

The protesters stood under the windows of the Minister of Defense's apartment in the luxurious Akirov Towers in Tel-Aviv and shouted: "Ehud Barak, Minister of Defense / How many children have you murdered so far?"

A short while later, Olmert spoke about his strenuous efforts to achieve peace, and promised to continue them until his last day in office.

The two events - the demonstration and the speech - are bound together. Together they provide an accurate picture of the era: peace speeches in the air and atrocities on the ground.

I AM not about to join the choir of retrospective heroes, who are now falling upon Olmert's political corpse and tearing it to pieces.

Not an attractive sight. I have seen this happen several times in my life, and every time it disgusts me.

This phenomenon is not particular to Israel. It can be found in the history and literature of many times and places: "The Rise and Fall of…"

It's an old story. People grovel in the dust at the feet of their hero. The ambitious and avaricious prance around him. Court-poets and court-jesters sing his praises, and their modern successors - the media people - extol his virtues. And then, one day, he falls from his pedestal and they trample all over him without mercy and without shame.

This is the mob that idolized Moshe Dayan after the Six-day War, and then smashed his statue into pieces after the Yom-Kippur war. The mob that kicked David Ben-Gurion viciously after years of boundless flattery. That toppled Golda Meir after following her blindly. I certainly struggled against all three of them when they were at the height of their power, but the rush of the political mob to trample upon their bodies after they had fallen was simply loathsome.

Now this is happening again. I have never been captivated by the charms of Ehud Olmert. I have followed his career from the moment he appeared on the stage to the moment he announced his resignation. I saw nothing to arouse my admiration. But now, when I see and hear the outpouring of abuse upon him by those who exalted him to high heavens only yesterday, I feel like averting my eyes. The right to criticize him is reserved for those who have struggled against him over the years.

HE IS a total politician, and nothing else. Not a statesman. Not a leader. Not a man with a vision. Only a political technician. Intelligent. A very smooth speaker. I friend among friends. A politician for whom power is the aim, not a means to achieve an aim.

The first time I came across him was almost 40 years ago. He was then an assistant of Shmuel Tamir, in the most concrete sense: he assisted him in carrying his bags.

Before this, something had happened that was to characterize the whole career of this ambitious man. Tamir, then a young Knesset member for the Herut party (today's Likud), thought he had an opportunity to topple Menachem Begin and take over the party. He tried to push him out during the party convention, and for a moment it seemed that he would succeed. Begin, then 53, seemed totally worn-out after suffering six consecutive election defeats. Olmert, then 21, jumped onto the rebels' bandwagon and made a passionate speech against the legendary leader.

But his calculations were faulty. Begin sprang into action and delivered a death blow to the conspirators. They were thrown out of the party in disgrace. Olmert remained with the tiny faction around Tamir, which presented itself as a moderate party, attuned to the peace-seeking mood of the country at the time, mocking the nationalistic stance of Herut ("Both sides of the Jordan belong to us"). But then the Six-day War changed the public mood completely, the weathercock turned and Tamir coined the popular slogan "Liberated Territory shall not be Returned!" Without batting an eyelid, Olmert the moderate turned into Olmert the extremist.

But in that small faction there were too many chiefs and not enough Injuns. The road to advancement was blocked. Before long, Olmert engineered a split in order to become the No. 2 in an even smaller faction. He later split that one too and pushed out its veteran leader, Eliezer Shostak. The proceedings bordered on farce: Olmert ran off with the faction's rubber stamp.

After the 1973 elections, Olmert return to the Likud at long last and became candidate No. 24 on the party's election list. Before that he had not been idle: he finished law school and flourished financially, using his connections in the Knesset and the corridors of power for his clients' benefit. That's when he perfected the method of exploiting the connections between power and money, a method that he practiced ever since and that eventually caused his downfall.

In the Knesset, the young member was looking for a way to attract attention. At the time, the media invented "organized crime", long before it came into being. (A wag jested: "In Israel, nothing is organized. So how come crime is suddenly organized?") Olmert smelled a horse he could ride on. He made rousing speeches, waved papers in the style of Joe McCarthy, presented himself as a valiant fighter against the criminals and reaped a lot of publicity. It was an empty performance: even the police chiefs confirmed that it did not contribute anything to the struggle against crime. But it was a good example of what later came to be known as "spin".

IN 1977, Menachem Begin came to power. But he had not the least intention of promoting the man who, 11 years earlier, had tried to stick a knife in his back. Among his other strengths, Begin had a good memory. When Olmert saw that his career in the Knesset was going nowhere, he decided in 1993 to make an Olympic jump: he declared his candidacy for the office of Mayor of Jerusalem.

Mayor Teddy Kollek was popular, but old and tired. Olmert won. Today there is general agreement about his tenure: he was a bad mayor. The city deteriorated, poverty increased, young people left for other places and the Arab neighborhoods were criminally neglected. In 1996, he pushed Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu into opening a tunnel leading from the Western Wall to the Muslim quarter, causing a conflagration that killed 17 Israeli soldiers and almost 100 Palestinians. He never expressed any remorse.

He also pushed for the creation of the Har Homa settlement between Jerusalem and Bethlehem, which has caused unending friction with the Palestinian community. All the recent attacks in Jerusalem were carried out by youngsters who grew up in the Arab neighborhoods adjacent to Har Homa. Olmert presented himself as the Judaizer of Jerusalem and as a fearless national fighter.

But when he ran for Likud chairman in 1999, he was easily beaten by Ariel Sharon. He got only the 32nd place on the Likud election list (out of 38 who won Knesset seats). His rational reaction was to get on Sharon's wagon and push him into leaving the Likud and creating a new party, Kadima.

That was a successful bet, testifying to his sharp political senses. Under Sharon he became the de facto No. 2 of the new party and Sharon's official "Deputy Prime Minister" (as a consolation prize, after Sharon could not give him the Treasury but only the far less important Ministry of Industry and Trade). At the time it looked like an empty title, but when Sharon suffered a stroke, Olmert adroitly took over his job. The long and meandering road had finally led to the summit.

SHARON'S SUCCESSOR was his opposite in almost every respect. Sharon was a rather maladroit politician and a poor speaker, but a determined leader with a clear political vision. He had an aim and strove towards it consistently. Olmert is a politician, soul and body, a complete opportunist and a smooth speaker, but lacks charisma and has no vision. He is satisfied with the routine mantra of a democratic, Jewish state.

After coming to power through the accident of Sharon's stroke, he tried at first to look as if he was following the same path. Sharon wanted to turn Israel into a strong, compact state by annexing the settlement blocs and leaving the Arab enclaves to a weak "Palestinian state". For this purpose he carried out the Gaza "separation". Olmert promised to do the same in the West Bank, but gave up the idea almost immediately. Throughout his term of office he invented grandiose schemes at a dizzying rate, with each of them doing little more than providing fuel to his spin-machine.

His incompetence as a leader and commander soon revealed itself. Lebanon War II was a disastrous scandal. The media, which had applauded enthusiastically at the beginning of the war, attacked him after the event for its "faulty execution", but ignored the main failure: the very decision to go to war without a clear and realistic aim and without a political and military strategy.

His incompetence as statesman and strategist was equaled by his competence as politician and survival artist. The fact that he held on for an additional two years after such a monumental failure testifies to his political acumen, but also to the degeneration of the Israeli political system.

After the war he was desperately in need of a new horse to ride. He chose the "political process" - negotiations with the Palestinians, and later on also with the Syrians.

This choice is significant: his sensitive political nose smelled that this is now the really popular thing: not Greater Israel, not the settlements, but peace negotiations and "two states for two peoples" - the more so as this was already popular with the US and Europe.

This week, Arab leaders complained that now "the political process will begin again from Square One." That is a complete misunderstanding: the "process" has never left Square One. It was wholly without content, wholly "spin". The "process" has become a substitute for peace, the idea of a "shelf agreement" a substitute for a real peace agreement. There was never any possibility that Olmert would dare to provoke the settlers.

The final summing-up of the Olmert era: not the smallest real step toward peace has been taken. The historic peace initiative of the Arab League has been buried. The secular, peace-seeking Palestinian leadership has been almost destroyed, paving the way for the Hamas takeover in the Gaza strip, and perhaps also in the West Bank. Not one single hut in a settlement was dismantled, and the settlements have been enlarged everywhere.

In one respect, Olmert resembled Sharon: they both loved money almost as much as power (as do Netanyahu and Barak). They both cultivated close relations with billionaires. They both trailed behind them a cloud of corruption wherever they went.

This did not hurt Sharon. He radiated leadership, and the scandals did not really harm him. He was robust enough to carry them on his back. Olmert, being much more fragile, was crushed by them.

In the end, he has fallen: not because of the criminal war, not because of his lack of seriousness in pursuing peace, not because of the appointment of a Minister of Justice whose aim is to destroy the judicial system, but because of cash in envelopes and free trips abroad.

WHEN FUTURE historians look for a way to characterize this chapter in the annals of the state, one word will readily present itself, the one the writer David Grossman applied in a similar context: hollow.

It was a hollow era. A hole in time. A meaningless period, devoid of content (though not for those who paid the price with their lives, destruction and ruins.)

And that is also the suitable title for Olmert himself. A hollow politician, devoid of vision.

Anyone researching the headlines of these two years will find a lot of drama there. A lot of initiatives. A lot of slogans. A lot of spin. A lot of hot air. And the sum of all this: nothing.

A hollow leader of a hollow party pursuing hollow policies in a hollow political system.

Sunday, August 03, 2008

The Latest from Rense

And now- from that font of 'Jew wisdom' comes this.

Is Rense an advocate of a New Holocaust? A Jew hater par excellence? To my mind he is- but hasn't got the balls to state his real position. Is Vladimir Putin a true Christian? YES- according to Rense- because he hates Jews. That's all that's required to be in Rense's favor. He's a one trick pony, afterall.

Disclosure




I received this from Bob Collins today. This is indeed a significant disclosure.


Mc
to undisclosed-re.

show details 6:14 PM (13 hours ago)


Reply


FYI--Big Surprise, very new for a lot of people, see Ed's comments below.....Best.....Robert Collins

Edgar Mitchell wrote:
> Bob, sorry you missed the very beginning of all this. That was the point. I grew up in the Roswell area. I was almost 17 and senior in high school when it happened. Family were ranchers and cattle people. We knew all the ranchers and towns people in the area, including where the UFO impacted. In spite of official denials and threats about talking, the local lore told the story. After my space flight, and being a local boy, people involved, not only the locals, trusted me with their stories, because they were getting older and wanted the truth out, but were afraid to say it publicly; so considered me a trustworthy source to carry their story onward. Been telling it all that way, if anyone bothered to ask my opinion, since the Pentagon incident 11 years ago. Only now, suddenly, it got international media attention. Edgar M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mc [mailto:Mc@donet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:19 PM
> To: undisclosed-recipients:
> Subject: Re: ON TV Since Last on Email
>
> Hi Ed, I know the Pentagon story, but what this about "being in Roswell" when the incident happened? Never heard that one for whatever that might mean. Please clue me in. And while I have you see the OM post on New Paris.....Rmc
>
> lucianarchy.proboards2...hread=3509
>
>
> Barbara Wade wrote:
>> When I left email, I was JUST IN TIME TO SEE EDGAR MITCHELL on "Hannity's America". I took notes. He TOLD MORE this time. He said that because he was in Roswell when the "incident" happened, plus being an astronaut and scientist, many locals and scientists wanted to tell him what THEY knew. They showed Walter Haut's death-bed statement. Then he said something I never heard him say before. He said that in 1997, he was at the PENTAGON FOR A DISCLOSURE MEETING! A Vice-Admiral found out THE DISCLOSURE PROGRAM IS IN THE PENTAGON! The Vice-Admiral was TOLD that "HE HAD NO NEED TO KNOW", so he wasn't let in. They mentioned that Gordon Cooper observed a UFO incident and had PHOTOS OF IT, BUT HIS PHOTOS WERE CONFISCATED!
>> Barbara



And this from an email from Ron Pandolfi to Rick Doty concerning Bob Collins:

7/13/2008 10:38 PM: Ronald Pandolfi wrote:

Rick,

Some wing nuts within the UFO Community might not think much of Robert Collins, but within the senior ranks of the intelligence and defense communities, there are many who consider him an honest and respectable citizen who served this country well. Go after Collins in court, and you are going to have us testifying on his behalf. And we are prepared to open the books.

Ron


The significance of the foregoing is that 'disclosure' has now been entirely taken out of Doty's hands. He obviously fucked it up. While we may never know the full story concerning his involvement with Green, Pandolfi, Martinez, Bill Ryan and Serpo, I think we can safely conclude that Doty has been summarily shit-canned. Ed Mitchell and Captain Collins are now in ascendant in my opinion.

The 'core story' of alien visitation (invasion) originates in Roswell in 1947. The UFO cover-up by the US government was designed to deal specifically with that event and ensuing events related to it. That Ed Mitchell was both there at the time and has since gained credibility as an astronaut who has walked on the moon makes him an ideal vehicle for disclosure. Expect more from him- and other astronauts- shortly. Bob Collins will undoubtedly also be in the loop.

I had originally broached this subject at Amkon but have since left that forum which turned out to be full of anti-semitic faux conspiracists and mindless chit-chatterers. All my future posts with reference to disclosure will henceforth be posted here.

Monday, July 28, 2008


UFO UPDATE FROM GARY BEKKUM

Monday, July 28, 2008
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell Hints at UFO ET "Core Story"

The past few days have seen a viral explosion of stories about statements made by Apollo astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, who walked on the moon in 1971.

The entire affair, which began with an interview at Kerrang! Radio, appears to be building a small mountain of momentum, with headlines like:

Ex-Astronaut: Aliens Are Real and NASA Knows It

Aliens are out there, says former Nasa astronaut

Astronaut reveals that aliens have better technology than humans

Ex-NASA astronaut 'sure' aliens exist

Even Reuters has posted a video news report on-line.

A quick search of Google News pulled up more than 300 articles.

Curiously, the most important aspect of Dr. Mitchell's testimony to the "Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape" affair has received little attention from most of the media outlets.

During the Kerrang! interview, Mitchell stated:

"But I've also been in military circles, and intelligence circles, that know that beneath the surface of what has been public knowledge, that yes, we have been visited. "

It appears that Dr. Mitchell is referring to the so-called UFO "Core Story" of extraterrestrial visitation.

For a quick review of some of the Intelligence Community interest in all things out-of-this-world, I recommend Gus Russo's article, The REAL X-files.

According to the Russo article, a well-placed source Russo calls "Jim" (not his real name), who remains close to high-ranking former U.S. officials told him:

“I believe there’s a ‘core story’,” Jim explained, “but I don’t know what it is. I have been told by people more senior than me that there is some truth to it, but they told me time and time again to stop pursuing it with CIA people and other intel types. Two very senior officials told me they saw briefing books, [however] the only ones who would be cleared to know the story are the most senior Pentagon career officers.” Jim refuses to divulge his sources, but when pressed, he reiterates what they told him: look to the Pentagon and the private sector’s aerospace and weapons labs, etc. US intelligence “doesn’t have labs capable of dealing with something this profound.” He also notes that over the years he has received thousands of UFO-related government documents in unmarked envelopes. Although some are obvious fakes, others, according to Jim, contain information that correlates with known, but still classified, scientific studies. In an intriguing footnote, Jim adds, “I have spoken to three former Presidents and the subject always comes up, not as a briefing, but they also want to know the truth. But apparently they aren’t cleared for it.”





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Saturday, July 26, 2008

THE STUPID BIOFUELS DEBATE

From here:

Time for some of that famous outside-the-box thinking. Think- "Post Automobile" and you'll be on the right track. How many french fries are required to produce a gallon of this crap? It's the dumbest of all dumbfuck ideas. The internal combustion engine is as passé as the flat earth. Just let the economy kill the fucking thing rather than searching out ways to reform an obsolete technology. It's high time to rediscover the most essential mode of transportation- legs. Maybe we need to reinvent society so that travel is measured not in miles per french fry but rather in steps. Is there really anyplace worthwhile to go that walking and running and bicycling cannot provide? Is it impossible to recognize that the world got along just fine before Jesus invented Henry Ford and Wilbur Wright? Think in terms of the Indian Nations that were vigorously and happily rubbed out by the Europeans for essentially no other reason than to bring us to this nightmare impasse. Hell- they seemed to manage very nicely without 50 million Chevies farting the world into oblivion.

Just bear in mind that reformers are nothing more than enablers and therefore the enemy of true progress. Our own Gummer grasped the essence of this idea when he committed to 'going raw.' Remember that? Do Luddites and Anarchists not have a point worth considering? Or are they too far outside the box?

The alchemy of transforming food into black gold is nothing more than the desperate act of tossing the axe handle into the fireplace for that last few moments of warmth.

The greatest of mendacious conspiracies? None other than Reform.

Have a good day.

_________________
"How can a nation be great when its bread tastes like Kleenex?" Julia Child

We all knew that the skunk was tough- but now he molders in the gutter with his stringy guts being picked over by wild hermit crabs.

yeah i know. but i've been a little leery of kacen ever since it turned out that he fills his pool with the effluence from the new york city liposuction clinic.

Friday, July 25, 2008



Those with eyes to see/ ears to hear bear witness to the emergence of the Synthetic element of the Platonic-Hegelian Dialectical Trinity of history. The Zeitgeist. In trivial political abstraction this Enjoyed symbology is apperceived as: From the enlightenment of Kennedy/King to darkly nixonian Bushism and then to this Obama moment.

Sunday, July 20, 2008

Posted by Gary Bekkum founder of Starstream Research on his blog- Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape
Friday, July 18, 2008
Are Reality Uncovered Moderators Fearful of the Truth?

Since one of the moderators at Reality Uncovered decided to shut off my access, thus preventing me from responding to on-going inquiries from RU members, I will continue by responding here.

"Amateur sleuths, using less than ethical methods of investigation, and even less respect for sources and the rules of journalism (apparently due to a general lack of ethical guidance), ignore the prerequisite professional rules for truthful reporting."

From an email sent to Ray Hudson by me yesterday:


There are 20 sub-forums at RU. The last post totals are: chorlton-7, ryan-4, steve-3, ray-3, others-3. AD must be attending a banner's society convention. The site is dominated by the same coterie of choir boys continually- the same crew of debunkers chasing out anyone of differing viewpoint in cacophony of horse laughs.

A Ufologist whom I hold in the highest regard, Jacques Vallee had this to say in an
interview yesterday:

"By denying the reality of the reports, brushing aside the witnesses...and treating them like fools or crooks, the academic skeptics are actually teaching the public that science is impotent at studying the phenomenon."


Add to that 'gratuitous ad hom attacks,' as in the case of Gary Bekkum, and you have perfectly described the methods of RU.

If you're happy with that then more power to ya.

For the record- almost all RU's ideas concerning USG intelligence community interest in the UFO phenomena, Kit Green, and Ron Pandolfi were purloined lock, stock and barrel from the work products of either Starstream Reasearch or Dan Smith. The RU 'researchers' have actually done no real research in these areas but rather have relied on Gary Bekkum to do all the heavy lifting- while at the same time both importuning and compromising his sources. This mendacious courtship has resulted in the forum being used by these same sources for the planting of spooky disinformation and has finally led to the demise of the site's credibility and membership participation. It seems to me that the scape-goating and ultimate banning of Gary Bekkum is simply a cynical attempt to finalize the charade by assuming ownership of Bekkum's research.

It is interesting to note that after 2 years of existence RU has about 170 members of whom 6! are active. The forum currently consists of:

1. withering attacks on Bill Irvin of ATS and Gary Bekkum of Starstream Research
2. a smarmy angel counting religious thread run by a paranoid Christian fundamentalist
3. an ongoing debunk of Ufology by the use of Phil Klass-type methods and
4. maudlin complaints by Chorlton about his various health issues.

Saturday, July 19, 2008

Memo to Obama, McCain: No One Wins in a War

by Howard Zinn

Barack Obama and John McCain continue to argue about war. McCain says to keep the troops in Iraq until we “win” and supports sending more troops to Afghanistan. Obama says to withdraw some (not all) troops from Iraq and send them to fight and “win” in Afghanistan.

For someone like myself, who fought in World War II, and since then has protested against war, I must ask: Have our political leaders gone mad? Have they learned nothing from recent history? Have they not learned that no one “wins” in a war, but that hundreds of thousands of humans die, most of them civilians, many of them children?

Did we “win” by going to war in Korea? The result was a stalemate, leaving things as they were before with a dictatorship in South Korea and a dictatorship in North Korea. Still, more than 2 million people — mostly civilians — died, the United States dropped napalm on children, and 50,000 American soldiers lost their lives.

Did we “win” in Vietnam? We were forced to withdraw, but only after 2 million Vietnamese died, again mostly civilians, again leaving children burned or armless or legless, and 58,000 American soldiers dead.

Did we win in the first Gulf War? Not really. Yes, we pushed Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait, with only a few hundred US casualties, but perhaps 100,000 Iraqis died. And the consequences were deadly for the United States: Saddam was still in power, which led the United States to enforce economic sanctions. That move led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, according to UN officials, and set the stage for another war.

In Afghanistan, the United States declared “victory” over the Taliban. Now the Taliban is back, and attacks are increasing. The recent US military death count in Afghanistan exceeds that in Iraq. What makes Obama think that sending more troops to Afghanistan will produce “victory”? And if it did, in an immediate military sense, how long would that last, and at what cost to human life on both sides?

The resurgence of fighting in Afghanistan is a good moment to reflect on the beginning of US involvement there. There should be sobering thoughts to those who say that attacking Iraq was wrong, but attacking Afghanistan was right.

Go back to Sept. 11, 2001. Hijackers direct jets into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing close to 3,000 A terrorist act, inexcusable by any moral code. The nation is aroused. President Bush orders the invasion and bombing of Afghanistan, and the American public is swept into approval by a wave of fear and anger. Bush announces a “war on terror.”

Except for terrorists, we are all against terror. So a war on terror sounded right. But there was a problem, which most Americans did not consider in the heat of the moment: President Bush, despite his confident bravado, had no idea how to make war against terror.

Yes, Al Qaeda — a relatively small but ruthless group of fanatics — was apparently responsible for the attacks. And, yes, there was evidence that Osama bin Laden and others were based in Afghanistan. But the United States did not know exactly where they were, so it invaded and bombed the whole country. That made many people feel righteous. “We had to do something,” you heard people say.

Yes, we had to do something. But not thoughtlessly, not recklessly. Would we approve of a police chief, knowing there was a vicious criminal somewhere in a neighborhood, ordering that the entire neighborhood be bombed? There was soon a civilian death toll in Afghanistan of more than 3,000 — exceeding the number of deaths in the Sept. 11 attacks. Hundreds of Afghans were driven from their homes and turned into wandering refugees.

Two months after the invasion of Afghanistan, a Boston Globe story described a 10-year-old in a hospital bed: “He lost his eyes and hands to the bomb that hit his house after Sunday dinner.” The doctor attending him said: “The United States must be thinking he is Osama. If he is not Osama, then why would they do this?”

We should be asking the presidential candidates: Is our war in Afghanistan ending terrorism, or provoking it? And is not war itself terrorism?

Howard Zinn is author of “A People’s History of the United States.”

© Copyright 2008 Globe Newspaper Company

Sunday, June 29, 2008

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Hopefully I am over reacting


I think you're reacting quite properly. As the Republicans/ Neocons say- work will set you free.
The issue isn't how many times somewhat inaccurate claims are made in the internets- it's a matter of principle. Everything posted has a half-life of a million years. So? In principle, and in fact, the Leviathan is making preparations for the ultimate summer camp. Wanna be bunkmates? Have I told you recently that you're cute?

Damn! you look good in stripes!
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Arbeit macht frei!
And... the foregoing doesn't even consider the other big shoe that's dropped- abrupt climate change. When the near term consequences of global warming are added to this social witch's brew the problem compounds exponentially. I'm reminded of the report prepared for Andrew Marshall at the pentagon in 2003 by Randall and Schwartz. http://www.gbn.com/GBNDocumentDisplaySe ... v?id=28566
Their conclusions: societal dissolution and general war. The DOD took this report very seriously and has been preparing for the predicted consequences ever since. And, yes- this includes the camps.

I purposely chose to avoid mention of climate change in my original jeremiad because to many righties it seems to be a matter of some dispute. Consideration of climate change is not essential to drawing conclusions concerning the decline and fall of the empire but when added to the mix the future becomes more bleak by a factor of ten.
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Not an answer.
Care to connect the dots for someone not on the same page as you?
Bad economy = prison camps?


I think Mur's point is that this isn't simply 'a bad economy.' This is the ultimate economic and social meltdown. The time when the chickens come home to roost. Such a meltdown will not occur in a vacuum. The social consequences will lead to everything from suicide to rebellion- the total dissolution of civil society. In such a world you can expect the State to exercise any means necessary to maintain its grip on power. But I think Mur might be wrong about the need for these camps. The neocon fascists will resort to wholesale execution instead- just as they've done in Iraq.
All this and more, here:

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In the past few weeks fear has come back in full force complete with blown out credit spreads and crashing financial sector stocks. However, this time around the Fed does not have the fire power nor the market confidence behind them because every measure they have taken thus far has only drained their reserves, delayed the inevitable, caused other problems elsewhere for the US and global economies and has not fixed the problem.


The Fed and the usual gang of 'experts' will always spend their meager energy on the analysis of the economic cogs and gears rather than the state of the deus ex machina itself. The fact is that the world is experiencing the greatest transfer of wealth since the beginning of recorded history. Pax Americana is in decline and fall. Nothing can slow the decent and the chaotic consequences for human continuance per se. Behold a pale horse. The ultimate discontinuity is at hand and the results will not be pretty- interesting, but not pretty.

The Empire won't go quietly- not with a whimper but a bang. Perhaps that is why the Johannine prophecies seem so apt. This movie played out before in a much smaller theatre. It doesn't require a prophet to see the future anymore- just a bit of tweaking on the fine tune knobs. The future has never had such a compelling immediacy.

The world is being strangled by the Malthusian garrote. Desperate populations are about to become engaged in a war for remaining resources. That is what the Iraq war is all about. Self preservation will finally wring out the last dampness of altruism. It has happened before to a lesser degree and the remedy that it spawned- Christianity- will find itself finally eclipsed by it's opposite principles. This is the larger picture. All that's left are the tedious details, the footnotes- the various methods of mayhem and the hydra-headed fools, the walk-ons of history, that permit their use.

So what sound and fury do we see in the immediate future? The crash of the markets, unlimited war, local transfers of wealth and property- evictions, repossessions, the calling of social margin. Families squatting in the dross of their own foreclosed homes- the new huddled masses, their utilities disconnected, while the successors of the failed banks are unable to force them out. Transportation at a stand-still. Empty grocery stores. Gunshots in the night. And the foreign wars of our addled emperor coming home. The attack on Iran will result in the sinking of aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. Saudi Arabia will be over-run by the gangs of it prodigal son. There will be no more oil shipped by those greedy sheiks. The ayatollahs will loose their missiles on Israel and taste the fruits of Samson's nukes. Persia will be no more. Israel will be no more. And then it all comes home. The scatterings of the Middle Eastern desperadoes will appear on our own streets, in our own buildings- and bring with them endless nine elevens. Of course there is more- much more- this is just a selective foretaste of the impending chaos. Let your imagination run wild to see the entire movie. Whatever disaster that you have the temerity to envision will come to pass. Shortly.

The billions that have gone before us, upon whose shoulders we stand, are here and now- new flesh on their bones- to witness the denouement of history. It could have been otherwise. The greatest fear shall now become- not death, but the inability to die. Perhaps John had it right after-all.

Monday, June 23, 2008



A truly sad day. Rest in peace, George. You've earned it.

Sunday, June 22, 2008

I stole this from General Nuisance at www.amkon.net and don't forget it bitch!