Disclosure




I received this from Bob Collins today. This is indeed a significant disclosure.

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FYI--Big Surprise, very new for a lot of people, see Ed's comments below.....Best.....Robert Collins

Edgar Mitchell wrote:
> Bob, sorry you missed the very beginning of all this. That was the point. I grew up in the Roswell area. I was almost 17 and senior in high school when it happened. Family were ranchers and cattle people. We knew all the ranchers and towns people in the area, including where the UFO impacted. In spite of official denials and threats about talking, the local lore told the story. After my space flight, and being a local boy, people involved, not only the locals, trusted me with their stories, because they were getting older and wanted the truth out, but were afraid to say it publicly; so considered me a trustworthy source to carry their story onward. Been telling it all that way, if anyone bothered to ask my opinion, since the Pentagon incident 11 years ago. Only now, suddenly, it got international media attention. Edgar M
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> From: Mc [mailto:Mc@donet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:19 PM
> To: undisclosed-recipients:
> Subject: Re: ON TV Since Last on Email
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> Hi Ed, I know the Pentagon story, but what this about "being in Roswell" when the incident happened? Never heard that one for whatever that might mean. Please clue me in. And while I have you see the OM post on New Paris.....Rmc
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> Barbara Wade wrote:
>> When I left email, I was JUST IN TIME TO SEE EDGAR MITCHELL on "Hannity's America". I took notes. He TOLD MORE this time. He said that because he was in Roswell when the "incident" happened, plus being an astronaut and scientist, many locals and scientists wanted to tell him what THEY knew. They showed Walter Haut's death-bed statement. Then he said something I never heard him say before. He said that in 1997, he was at the PENTAGON FOR A DISCLOSURE MEETING! A Vice-Admiral found out THE DISCLOSURE PROGRAM IS IN THE PENTAGON! The Vice-Admiral was TOLD that "HE HAD NO NEED TO KNOW", so he wasn't let in. They mentioned that Gordon Cooper observed a UFO incident and had PHOTOS OF IT, BUT HIS PHOTOS WERE CONFISCATED!
>> Barbara

And this from an email from Ron Pandolfi to Rick Doty concerning Bob Collins:

7/13/2008 10:38 PM: Ronald Pandolfi wrote:

Rick,

Some wing nuts within the UFO Community might not think much of Robert Collins, but within the senior ranks of the intelligence and defense communities, there are many who consider him an honest and respectable citizen who served this country well. Go after Collins in court, and you are going to have us testifying on his behalf. And we are prepared to open the books.

Ron

The significance of the foregoing is that 'disclosure' has now been entirely taken out of Doty's hands. He obviously fucked it up. While we may never know the full story concerning his involvement with Green, Pandolfi, Martinez, Bill Ryan and Serpo, I think we can safely conclude that Doty has been summarily shit-canned. Ed Mitchell and Captain Collins are now in ascendant in my opinion.

The 'core story' of alien visitation (invasion) originates in Roswell in 1947. The UFO cover-up by the US government was designed to deal specifically with that event and ensuing events related to it. That Ed Mitchell was both there at the time and has since gained credibility as an astronaut who has walked on the moon makes him an ideal vehicle for disclosure. Expect more from him- and other astronauts- shortly. Bob Collins will undoubtedly also be in the loop.

I had originally broached this subject at Amkon but have since left that forum which turned out to be full of anti-semitic faux conspiracists and mindless chit-chatterers. All my future posts with reference to disclosure will henceforth be posted here.

UFO UPDATE FROM GARY BEKKUM

Monday, July 28, 2008
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell Hints at UFO ET "Core Story"

The past few days have seen a viral explosion of stories about statements made by Apollo astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, who walked on the moon in 1971.

The entire affair, which began with an interview at Kerrang! Radio, appears to be building a small mountain of momentum, with headlines like:

Ex-Astronaut: Aliens Are Real and NASA Knows It

Aliens are out there, says former Nasa astronaut

Astronaut reveals that aliens have better technology than humans

Ex-NASA astronaut 'sure' aliens exist

Even Reuters has posted a video news report on-line.

A quick search of Google News pulled up more than 300 articles.

Curiously, the most important aspect of Dr. Mitchell's testimony to the "Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape" affair has received little attention from most of the media outlets.

During the Kerrang! interview, Mitchell stated:

"But I've also been in military circles, and intelligence circles, that know that beneath the surface of what has been public knowledge, that yes, we have been visited. "

It appears that Dr. Mitchell is referring to the so-called UFO "Core Story" of extraterrestrial visitation.

For a quick review of some of the Intelligence Community interest in all things out-of-this-world, I recommend Gus Russo's article, The REAL X-files.

According to the Russo article, a well-placed source Russo calls "Jim" (not his real name), who remains close to high-ranking former U.S. officials told him:

“I believe there’s a ‘core story’,” Jim explained, “but I don’t know what it is. I have been told by people more senior than me that there is some truth to it, but they told me time and time again to stop pursuing it with CIA people and other intel types. Two very senior officials told me they saw briefing books, [however] the only ones who would be cleared to know the story are the most senior Pentagon career officers.” Jim refuses to divulge his sources, but when pressed, he reiterates what they told him: look to the Pentagon and the private sector’s aerospace and weapons labs, etc. US intelligence “doesn’t have labs capable of dealing with something this profound.” He also notes that over the years he has received thousands of UFO-related government documents in unmarked envelopes. Although some are obvious fakes, others, according to Jim, contain information that correlates with known, but still classified, scientific studies. In an intriguing footnote, Jim adds, “I have spoken to three former Presidents and the subject always comes up, not as a briefing, but they also want to know the truth. But apparently they aren’t cleared for it.”





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THE STUPID BIOFUELS DEBATE

From here:

Time for some of that famous outside-the-box thinking. Think- "Post Automobile" and you'll be on the right track. How many french fries are required to produce a gallon of this crap? It's the dumbest of all dumbfuck ideas. The internal combustion engine is as passé as the flat earth. Just let the economy kill the fucking thing rather than searching out ways to reform an obsolete technology. It's high time to rediscover the most essential mode of transportation- legs. Maybe we need to reinvent society so that travel is measured not in miles per french fry but rather in steps. Is there really anyplace worthwhile to go that walking and running and bicycling cannot provide? Is it impossible to recognize that the world got along just fine before Jesus invented Henry Ford and Wilbur Wright? Think in terms of the Indian Nations that were vigorously and happily rubbed out by the Europeans for essentially no other reason than to bring us to this nightmare impasse. Hell- they seemed to manage very nicely without 50 million Chevies farting the world into oblivion.

Just bear in mind that reformers are nothing more than enablers and therefore the enemy of true progress. Our own Gummer grasped the essence of this idea when he committed to 'going raw.' Remember that? Do Luddites and Anarchists not have a point worth considering? Or are they too far outside the box?

The alchemy of transforming food into black gold is nothing more than the desperate act of tossing the axe handle into the fireplace for that last few moments of warmth.

The greatest of mendacious conspiracies? None other than Reform.

Have a good day.

_________________
"How can a nation be great when its bread tastes like Kleenex?" Julia Child

We all knew that the skunk was tough- but now he molders in the gutter with his stringy guts being picked over by wild hermit crabs.

yeah i know. but i've been a little leery of kacen ever since it turned out that he fills his pool with the effluence from the new york city liposuction clinic.

Those with eyes to see/ ears to hear bear witness to the emergence of the Synthetic element of the Platonic-Hegelian Dialectical Trinity of history. The Zeitgeist. In trivial political abstraction this Enjoyed symbology is apperceived as: From the enlightenment of Kennedy/King to darkly nixonian Bushism and then to this Obama moment.

Posted by Gary Bekkum founder of Starstream Research on his blog- Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape
Friday, July 18, 2008
Are Reality Uncovered Moderators Fearful of the Truth?

Since one of the moderators at Reality Uncovered decided to shut off my access, thus preventing me from responding to on-going inquiries from RU members, I will continue by responding here.

"Amateur sleuths, using less than ethical methods of investigation, and even less respect for sources and the rules of journalism (apparently due to a general lack of ethical guidance), ignore the prerequisite professional rules for truthful reporting."

From an email sent to Ray Hudson by me yesterday:


There are 20 sub-forums at RU. The last post totals are: chorlton-7, ryan-4, steve-3, ray-3, others-3. AD must be attending a banner's society convention. The site is dominated by the same coterie of choir boys continually- the same crew of debunkers chasing out anyone of differing viewpoint in cacophony of horse laughs.

A Ufologist whom I hold in the highest regard, Jacques Vallee had this to say in an
interview yesterday:

"By denying the reality of the reports, brushing aside the witnesses...and treating them like fools or crooks, the academic skeptics are actually teaching the public that science is impotent at studying the phenomenon."


Add to that 'gratuitous ad hom attacks,' as in the case of Gary Bekkum, and you have perfectly described the methods of RU.

If you're happy with that then more power to ya.

For the record- almost all RU's ideas concerning USG intelligence community interest in the UFO phenomena, Kit Green, and Ron Pandolfi were purloined lock, stock and barrel from the work products of either Starstream Reasearch or Dan Smith. The RU 'researchers' have actually done no real research in these areas but rather have relied on Gary Bekkum to do all the heavy lifting- while at the same time both importuning and compromising his sources. This mendacious courtship has resulted in the forum being used by these same sources for the planting of spooky disinformation and has finally led to the demise of the site's credibility and membership participation. It seems to me that the scape-goating and ultimate banning of Gary Bekkum is simply a cynical attempt to finalize the charade by assuming ownership of Bekkum's research.

It is interesting to note that after 2 years of existence RU has about 170 members of whom 6! are active. The forum currently consists of:

1. withering attacks on Bill Irvin of ATS and Gary Bekkum of Starstream Research
2. a smarmy angel counting religious thread run by a paranoid Christian fundamentalist
3. an ongoing debunk of Ufology by the use of Phil Klass-type methods and
4. maudlin complaints by Chorlton about his various health issues.

Memo to Obama, McCain: No One Wins in a War

by Howard Zinn

Barack Obama and John McCain continue to argue about war. McCain says to keep the troops in Iraq until we “win” and supports sending more troops to Afghanistan. Obama says to withdraw some (not all) troops from Iraq and send them to fight and “win” in Afghanistan.

For someone like myself, who fought in World War II, and since then has protested against war, I must ask: Have our political leaders gone mad? Have they learned nothing from recent history? Have they not learned that no one “wins” in a war, but that hundreds of thousands of humans die, most of them civilians, many of them children?

Did we “win” by going to war in Korea? The result was a stalemate, leaving things as they were before with a dictatorship in South Korea and a dictatorship in North Korea. Still, more than 2 million people — mostly civilians — died, the United States dropped napalm on children, and 50,000 American soldiers lost their lives.

Did we “win” in Vietnam? We were forced to withdraw, but only after 2 million Vietnamese died, again mostly civilians, again leaving children burned or armless or legless, and 58,000 American soldiers dead.

Did we win in the first Gulf War? Not really. Yes, we pushed Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait, with only a few hundred US casualties, but perhaps 100,000 Iraqis died. And the consequences were deadly for the United States: Saddam was still in power, which led the United States to enforce economic sanctions. That move led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, according to UN officials, and set the stage for another war.

In Afghanistan, the United States declared “victory” over the Taliban. Now the Taliban is back, and attacks are increasing. The recent US military death count in Afghanistan exceeds that in Iraq. What makes Obama think that sending more troops to Afghanistan will produce “victory”? And if it did, in an immediate military sense, how long would that last, and at what cost to human life on both sides?

The resurgence of fighting in Afghanistan is a good moment to reflect on the beginning of US involvement there. There should be sobering thoughts to those who say that attacking Iraq was wrong, but attacking Afghanistan was right.

Go back to Sept. 11, 2001. Hijackers direct jets into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing close to 3,000 A terrorist act, inexcusable by any moral code. The nation is aroused. President Bush orders the invasion and bombing of Afghanistan, and the American public is swept into approval by a wave of fear and anger. Bush announces a “war on terror.”

Except for terrorists, we are all against terror. So a war on terror sounded right. But there was a problem, which most Americans did not consider in the heat of the moment: President Bush, despite his confident bravado, had no idea how to make war against terror.

Yes, Al Qaeda — a relatively small but ruthless group of fanatics — was apparently responsible for the attacks. And, yes, there was evidence that Osama bin Laden and others were based in Afghanistan. But the United States did not know exactly where they were, so it invaded and bombed the whole country. That made many people feel righteous. “We had to do something,” you heard people say.

Yes, we had to do something. But not thoughtlessly, not recklessly. Would we approve of a police chief, knowing there was a vicious criminal somewhere in a neighborhood, ordering that the entire neighborhood be bombed? There was soon a civilian death toll in Afghanistan of more than 3,000 — exceeding the number of deaths in the Sept. 11 attacks. Hundreds of Afghans were driven from their homes and turned into wandering refugees.

Two months after the invasion of Afghanistan, a Boston Globe story described a 10-year-old in a hospital bed: “He lost his eyes and hands to the bomb that hit his house after Sunday dinner.” The doctor attending him said: “The United States must be thinking he is Osama. If he is not Osama, then why would they do this?”

We should be asking the presidential candidates: Is our war in Afghanistan ending terrorism, or provoking it? And is not war itself terrorism?

Howard Zinn is author of “A People’s History of the United States.”

© Copyright 2008 Globe Newspaper Company

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Hopefully I am over reacting

I think you're reacting quite properly. As the Republicans/ Neocons say- work will set you free.

The issue isn't how many times somewhat inaccurate claims are made in the internets- it's a matter of principle. Everything posted has a half-life of a million years. So? In principle, and in fact, the Leviathan is making preparations for the ultimate summer camp. Wanna be bunkmates? Have I told you recently that you're cute?

Damn! you look good in stripes!

Arbeit macht frei!

And... the foregoing doesn't even consider the other big shoe that's dropped- abrupt climate change. When the near term consequences of global warming are added to this social witch's brew the problem compounds exponentially. I'm reminded of the report prepared for Andrew Marshall at the pentagon in 2003 by Randall and Schwartz. http://www.gbn.com/GBNDocumentDisplaySe ... v?id=28566
Their conclusions: societal dissolution and general war. The DOD took this report very seriously and has been preparing for the predicted consequences ever since. And, yes- this includes the camps.

I purposely chose to avoid mention of climate change in my original jeremiad because to many righties it seems to be a matter of some dispute. Consideration of climate change is not essential to drawing conclusions concerning the decline and fall of the empire but when added to the mix the future becomes more bleak by a factor of ten.

1972 wrote:

Not an answer.
Care to connect the dots for someone not on the same page as you?
Bad economy = prison camps?

I think Mur's point is that this isn't simply 'a bad economy.' This is the ultimate economic and social meltdown. The time when the chickens come home to roost. Such a meltdown will not occur in a vacuum. The social consequences will lead to everything from suicide to rebellion- the total dissolution of civil society. In such a world you can expect the State to exercise any means necessary to maintain its grip on power. But I think Mur might be wrong about the need for these camps. The neocon fascists will resort to wholesale execution instead- just as they've done in Iraq.

All this and more, here:

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In the past few weeks fear has come back in full force complete with blown out credit spreads and crashing financial sector stocks. However, this time around the Fed does not have the fire power nor the market confidence behind them because every measure they have taken thus far has only drained their reserves, delayed the inevitable, caused other problems elsewhere for the US and global economies and has not fixed the problem.

The Fed and the usual gang of 'experts' will always spend their meager energy on the analysis of the economic cogs and gears rather than the state of the deus ex machina itself. The fact is that the world is experiencing the greatest transfer of wealth since the beginning of recorded history. Pax Americana is in decline and fall. Nothing can slow the decent and the chaotic consequences for human continuance per se. Behold a pale horse. The ultimate discontinuity is at hand and the results will not be pretty- interesting, but not pretty.

The Empire won't go quietly- not with a whimper but a bang. Perhaps that is why the Johannine prophecies seem so apt. This movie played out before in a much smaller theatre. It doesn't require a prophet to see the future anymore- just a bit of tweaking on the fine tune knobs. The future has never had such a compelling immediacy.

The world is being strangled by the Malthusian garrote. Desperate populations are about to become engaged in a war for remaining resources. That is what the Iraq war is all about. Self preservation will finally wring out the last dampness of altruism. It has happened before to a lesser degree and the remedy that it spawned- Christianity- will find itself finally eclipsed by it's opposite principles. This is the larger picture. All that's left are the tedious details, the footnotes- the various methods of mayhem and the hydra-headed fools, the walk-ons of history, that permit their use.

So what sound and fury do we see in the immediate future? The crash of the markets, unlimited war, local transfers of wealth and property- evictions, repossessions, the calling of social margin. Families squatting in the dross of their own foreclosed homes- the new huddled masses, their utilities disconnected, while the successors of the failed banks are unable to force them out. Transportation at a stand-still. Empty grocery stores. Gunshots in the night. And the foreign wars of our addled emperor coming home. The attack on Iran will result in the sinking of aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. Saudi Arabia will be over-run by the gangs of it prodigal son. There will be no more oil shipped by those greedy sheiks. The ayatollahs will loose their missiles on Israel and taste the fruits of Samson's nukes. Persia will be no more. Israel will be no more. And then it all comes home. The scatterings of the Middle Eastern desperadoes will appear on our own streets, in our own buildings- and bring with them endless nine elevens. Of course there is more- much more- this is just a selective foretaste of the impending chaos. Let your imagination run wild to see the entire movie. Whatever disaster that you have the temerity to envision will come to pass. Shortly.

The billions that have gone before us, upon whose shoulders we stand, are here and now- new flesh on their bones- to witness the denouement of history. It could have been otherwise. The greatest fear shall now become- not death, but the inability to die. Perhaps John had it right after-all.

A truly sad day. Rest in peace, George. You've earned it.

I stole this from General Nuisance at www.amkon.net and don't forget it bitch!

A brief history lesson from the General:

When Jeremy Wright made his, "God damn America" remark this is exactly what he had in mind- the merciless slaughter of Native Americans and the enslavement and 300 year persecution of Africans. When you strip away the myths America has a brutal and shameful history of interminable, illegal wars and the abject, ongoing persecution of its own minority populations. Genocidal racism, in one manner or another, is as American as cherry pie.

UFO PROBLEM SOLVED BY GENERAL STRIKER!!

Said the General today:

Here's America's real problem concerning UFOs. We are a country whose greatest science minds are devoted to solving the conundrum of how many gallons of vile crud need to be burned in order to fly one contraption, three men and a bomb from Blefuscu to Lilliput. We're a backwater popsicle-stand of a planet and only of passing interest to the advanced civilizations visiting us. So put your head back in your butt and pay them no mind- you've got some Chinese shit to buy at Walmart.

IMPEACH THE BASTARD

Has the RK question been answered?

Kali Field Investigator Joined: Jan 28, 2007 Posts: 348 Karma: +23 Applaud / Smite	Post subject: Re: Serpo.info has been updated Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 06:12 PM Thread unlocked. My latest ramblings on the other thread. wyzwyrlde.com/Forums/v...html#29756 I've removed the edit and delete functions from this section for all users (and the mind control section) while I work out how to just restrict individuals from abusing the delete function. I created a group called restricted access and added Shawnna to the group but haven't worked out the specifics of the task just yet. So bear with me, I'm only 6 months late. Yep this is censorship but I'm wanting to reopen the thread, locking it is censorship too, LOL. Damned if I do....
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hibits Shit Spewing Troll Joined: Oct 22, 2006 Posts: 618 Location: area 51 Karma: +8 Applaud / Smite	Post subject: Serpo.info has been updated Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 08:49 PM OK! So what's your RK theory? Please!!! _________________ And I should remark that I am saving my insults for Toon for "just the right time" when I will strike at his soft, white underbelly for maximum damage and humiliation. Ray Hudson 2007
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Kali Field Investigator Joined: Jan 28, 2007 Posts: 348 Karma: +23 Applaud / Smite	Post subject: Re: Serpo.info has been updated Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 09:23 PM RK uses a similar grammatical error to those often used by Bob Collins. If you read lots of BC's post from usenet from 6+ years ago, you'll see that often the phrase "had of" or "had to of" is used rather than "had to have" (also would of" "could of" etc, etc) Reading all those posts would also give a sense of Deja Vu. His communications to others on usenet were the first to get my goat up:), with the overuse of phrases such as "I know and you don't/won't " but that's another non-relevant story. Searching SERPO related sites you'll see that hardly anyone else ever makes this type error and the odd person or 2 that do are pretty unremarkable, so it's...... interesting but not really useful or proof of anything:)
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Kali Field Investigator Joined: Jan 28, 2007 Posts: 348 Karma: +23 Applaud / Smite	Post subject: Re: Serpo.info has been updated Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 09:49 PM If anyone actually wants to wade through all the historical usenet posts, then here's a few of his old addies. groups.google.com.au/g...bX05nZ-8fQ groups.google.com.au/g...4AZhN98BFg Can only find 2 profiles for now, from the late 90's, but I have a couple more written down somewhere if anyone is interested.
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Kali Field Investigator Joined: Jan 28, 2007 Posts: 348 Karma: +23 Applaud / Smite	Post subject: Re: Serpo.info has been updated Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:15 PM Multiple posts (sorry) but the edit feature has gone on this thread for now. Recognition for the above thoughts should be passed around. I initially found all the grammatical errors back in 2004 when I was reading up on RMC. I created a thread in the mod section in 2005 with pastes of these usenet posting just in case we'd ever want to refer to them. Last year, Kiwi matched RK's style to RMC's style and posted them in my hidden RMC thread. Another unnamed member also read through and agreed that there was a possible match. So it was a group effort thingie:) I can't really move the related thread into public view as there are one or 2 posts from members who have since fled from the internets or at least conspiracy land and wouldn't really want their names outted. It was just pages and pages of pastes (by me) really, collected from links like those posted above. (I had a quick squizz and everything on the other thread is linked here or mentioned at the least. Thread drift in process but this is the article that got me started, I've put a couple of errors in bold but I haven't read the post for years so there may be more: www.bbc.co.uk/insideou...ufos.shtml Quote: Another ex-USAF I’d like to reply to Anonymous: "Military Police are very serious people and to fool around in a time where the threat of national security was so great, would cause serious problems especially on a military base where nuclear weapons were housed.” Humor is a basic part of human nature. Even in the worst situation we usually find something to laugh about. No one, even security policeman, can be serious 24-7. My understanding is that nuclear weapons were not stored at Woodbridge at the time. “A foolish act could of been used as a decoy to allow possible communist spies into the base.” Spies don’t usually cause large disturbances as a cover to low crawl through the woods onto a base. There are much more efficient and safer methods. On a daily basis literally hundreds of people were on the base, tradesmen, etc. Besides, nothing ultra secret went on at Bentwaters/Woodbridge, and the Russians probably knew more about the operation than most average USAF members, without the need to put on black clothing and crawl through the woods. “This would cause any superior to court marshall any soldier who might of done an act that was not required instead of doing there job to help protect western europe.” Discipline in the military is not nearly as rigid as you might think. We’re humans after all. “My beliefs is a Deputy Base Commander would be more creditable than a Senior Master Sergeant.” Wouldn’t that depend on the Deputy Base Commander and the Senior Master Sergeant? “I guess we all would of had to been there at the time of the incident to fully understand what was going on.” On this we agree.
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hibits Shit Spewing Troll Joined: Oct 22, 2006 Posts: 618 Location: area 51 Karma: +8 Applaud / Smite	Post subject: Serpo.info has been updated Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 05:42 AM I agree. Bob makes the same sorts of errors in EfD (mostly edited out by Victor Martinez in subsequents editions, I understand.) On the other hand the sections of the first edition of that book attributed to Rick Doty also contain similar errors in both syntax and grammar. The gratuitous 'Britishisms' contained in the RK posts incline me towards Doty, however, because of his long tutelage by Bill Ryan- (who admitted to me at one time that he rewrote Doty's essay in UFO Magazine in order to make it intelligible.) I really don't think that RK has anything to lose by coming back here to clear this up. Hopefully he will. There are pitfalls in this type of linguistically based analysis as evidenced by the conclusions of Broadbent and Shawanna rifht here on this board that RK was in fact Hibits. I suppose only RK himself can finally solve the mystery. One point that I believe is clear is that the real RK is undoubtedly an associate of the Serptonical clique comprised of Kit Green, Victor Martinez, Bob Collins, Bill Ryan and Rick Doty- all of whom, I should note, hate Shawanna (and each other!). And then again- there is Springer... _________________ And I should remark that I am saving my insults for Toon for "just the right time" when I will strike at his soft, white underbelly for maximum damage and humiliation. Ray Hudson 2007
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hibits Shit Spewing Troll Joined: Oct 22, 2006 Posts: 618 Location: area 51 Karma: +8 Applaud / Smite	Post subject: Serpo.info has been updated Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 05:45 AM jesus kate, i can't even correct my spelling anymore! _________________ And I should remark that I am saving my insults for Toon for "just the right time" when I will strike at his soft, white underbelly for maximum damage and humiliation. Ray Hudson 2007