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Quote: Not a police state yet, be patient, we are working on it. HP, this is an incipient police state like none ever before imagined- not by Orwell, not even by Huxley. Here, even though we can mitigate it to a certain degree, we volunteer evidence of our own sedition. We give ourselves up to the GoogleBorg and rejoice when they republish our subversive discussions for the benefit of the IC collectors- and for the benefit of our own conceit. Some vaguely sense the repercussions, while others are too shallow to see anything beyond their next fix. But there will be a reckoning- of that we can be certain. Certainly there's much to be said for Jack's and Snow's recognition of the pressing inevitability of fascist usurpation- the brutal tactics in the mendacious cause of conformity. We see it, we feel it and we protest against it. But there's a tenor of captivity that's even more profound and pernicious- and novel. A paradigm that is sensed rather than felt. The government watchers and their enablers seem to be benign and go unnoticed while their garrote slowly tightens around the collective neck of reasonable polity. By ignoring that we are complicit in our own captivity.

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I have nagging questions that bother me about the whole Source A thing.......why bring it only to the people who study Ufology? Why does this type of info again and again get directly targeted to online Ufo communities? Why is this not going into newspapers? At least get George Knapp involved. Outside of visiting this forum, no one discusses, cares, knows about, or gives a rats patootie about any Secret UN meeting or Source A. It is like it was designed just for little ole us. The Pickerings have a bar in a major city with plenty of professional journalists. Some of them are probably new young blood that would love to sink their teeth into this and at least attempt to verify some of it. But it seems like that is a no no. It is just for us little forum dwellers to discuss and discuss until 2017...........wow!

John's question is critical: "Why bring it only to the people who study Ufology? Why does this type of info again and again get directly targeted to online UfO communities?" The answer, I believe, lies in IC Collections Agents methods of enabling, manipulating and studying the Ufer petri dish forums such as OM. It appears that Jed, a former OM moderator, finally has a sense of his forum members having been reduced to little more than lab rats by proactive CIA operatives who have conspired to co-opt and subvert the site for their own purposes. The purpose? Hold onto your hats- to emulate the secret seditious methods of the silent ET invasion. In a sense that would not be far from the mark it can be said that the worst fears of Gary Barker have come to fruition. The Men in Black are in actuality unexceptional, middle aged men in pin-striped suits. The only question that remains- and it the largest question of all- is at whose behest do these agents work? Are they ours or theirs? Who can we trust? Is their publication of a picture of the Saint Francis Church as a representation of a Serponian outpost designed to fool the lab rats or bewilder them? Is such obvious fraud designed for the purpose of separating out the credulous 'true believers' for further indoctrination and future pro-action on their behalf? It would appear so. And what is the glue used by these agents to maintain the integrity of their flocks? The promise of a fatuous 'Disclosure' that will never come about. That promise has also taken on religious implications and has become conflated with the inherrent yearning of all true believing CTers to be counted among the 'raptured' in the approaching denouement of history. The role of savior is filled by one Dan T. Smith in the OMer community. Note that he has even referred to himself as the final Messiah in his long and tortured discourses on eschatology- a messiah who also admits to be on the control of a CIA handler by the name of Ron Pandolfi. Smith makes no secret of this connection but rather revels in it.

John Hicks is finally sensing all this but has yet to fully understand the implications. I look for his eventual silencing by the OM moderation team just as they've seen fit to silence other members and syndicates who have attempted to expose their cultist alliance with the post-modern MIBs.

I would ask all Amkoids who are still a members there to publish the above analysis on their forum in the interests of truth.

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China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting - Yahoo! News

Boycott China!

China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

Reuters – Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama gestures during a talk to an audience in Melbourne in this December …

By Chris Buckley and Ben Blanchard Chris Buckley And Ben Blanchard – Wed Feb 3, 3:04 am ET

BEIJING (Reuters) – China warned President Barack Obama on Wednesday that a meeting between him and the Dalai Lama would further erode ties between the two powers, already troubled by Washington's arms sales to Taiwan. The White House confirmed on Tuesday that Obama would meet the exiled Tibetan Buddhist leader reviled by Beijing as a separatist for seeking self-rule for his mountain homeland. China's angry response reflected deepening tension between the world's biggest and third-biggest economies, with Beijing noting that President Hu Jintao himself urged Obama not to meet the exiled Tibetan leader. Ma Zhaoxu, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, said his government "resolutely opposes the leader of the United States having contact with the Dalai under any pretext or in any form." During Hu's summit with Obama in Beijing last November, the Chinese leader "explained China's stern position of resolutely opposing any government leaders and officials meeting the Dalai," said Ma. "We urge the U.S. to fully grasp the high sensitivity of the Tibetan issues, to prudently and appropriately deal with related matters, and avoid bringing further damage to China-U.S. relations," said Ma. China's ire at the White House announcement was predictable, as was the White House's confirmation of the meeting, which has long been flagged. But the flare-up comes soon after Beijing lashed Washington over a $6.4 billion U.S. weapons package for Taiwan, the self-ruled island that Beijing deems an illegitimate breakaway province. It also comes during Sino-U.S. tensions over the value of China's currency, trade protectionism and Internet freedoms. BEIJING GETS PUSHY Beijing has become increasingly assertive about opposing the Dalai Lama's meetings with foreign leaders, and the issue is a volatile theme among patriotic Chinese, who see Western criticism of Chinese policy in Tibet as meddling. Protests over Chinese rule in Tibet that upset the London and Paris legs of the torch relay for the 2008 Beijing Olympics drew angry counter-protests by Chinese abroad and demonstrations in China urging boycotts of French goods. When French President Nicolas Sarkozy would not pull out of meeting the Dalai Lama while his country held the rotating presidency of the European Union in late 2008, China canceled a summit with the EU and there were Chinese calls for boycotts of French goods. On Tuesday, a Chinese Communist Party official said any meeting between Obama and the Dalai Lama "would seriously undermine the political basis of Sino-U.S. relations." The Dalai Lama fled Tibet in 1959 after a failed uprising against Chinese Communist Party forces who entered the region from 1950. He says he wants true autonomy for Tibet under Chinese sovereignty, but Beijing says his demands amount to seeking outright independence. Previous U.S. presidents, including Obama's predecessor George W. Bush, have met the Dalai Lama, drawing angry words from Beijing but no substantive reprisals. China's latest statement did not mention any specific retaliation over Obama's planned meeting. "I think it indicates their nervousness in the issue of Tibet ... the wider world recognizing that there is problem in Tibet and China should do something about it," said Thubten Samphel, spokesman of the Tibetan government-in-exile based in Dharamsala, northern India. The White House shrugged off Beijing's earlier warnings about the meeting, which may happen as early as this month. "The president told China's leaders during his trip last year that he would meet with the Dalai Lama and he intends to do so," White House spokesman Bill Burton told reporters. "We expect that our relationship with China is mature enough where we can work on areas of mutual concern such as climate, the global economy and non-proliferation and discuss frankly and candidly those areas where we disagree." The United States says it accepts that Tibet is a part of China and wants Beijing to open up dialogue with the Dalai Lama about the future of the region. But a Chinese foreign policy analyst said the response from Beijing, increasingly assertive on what it sees as core concerns, would be tougher than Washington anticipates. "China wants to change the rules of the game," Yuan Peng, head of US studies at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, told the Global Times, a Chinese newspaper. "Though the U.S. has previously sold weapons to Taiwan and met the Dalai Lama, and we've
then railed at the United States, this time there'll be true cursing and
retaliation."

(Additional reporting by Reuters Television in Dharamsala; Editing by Nick Macfie

From The American Conservative. Brownshirts at the door?

The lives of genuine conservatives in Britain have been made much harder by the recent growth of the British National Party, a sordid and disreputable group with its origins in racial obsessions and Holocaust denial. Its success, achieved by faked reasonableness and slick PR, ha seemed to confirm the liberal Left’s view that the Right is just one step away from Hitlerism, steeped in prejudice and loutish stupidity.This is a grave burden to proper, patriotic conservatives, and I am ceaselessly amazed at how many people are taken in. Perhaps a few words of explanation and background are in order for any on the far side ofthe Atlantic who might have been beguiled.Imagine a political party where the ex-leader launches an investigation into his successor because he thinks he may be Jewish. There is, infact, no need to imagine. The British National Party’s podgy chieftain,Nick Griffin, actually had his ancestry probed for alleged Jewishness by the organization’s former Fuehrer, the late John Tyndall.
 

How exactly do/will they control us?


That we don't know. Nor can we answer the larger question of 'why?' For many years I was on the side of the 'explorer' hypothesis. I figured it was a scientific endeavor- that we were being studied just as we study penguins and lizards. What changed my mind was the testimony of experiencers beginning with the Hills. The deeper I looked- considering the work of Jacobs and Hopkins and Mack- and the further manipulation of Ufology by a strange assortment of intelligence agents (operating in ways not dissimilar to the methods of the silent invaders- who do they serve?) the more I became convinced that this phenomenon was not only real- but immediate. I have come to an understanding that the US Government has studied this problem in depth for the last 63 years and that those who are most responsible for the study have been compromised and co-opted by the very subject of their study. There is a Majestic 12 and there is ongoing contact. And that circumstance, above all else, should worry us. Immersion in the study of Ufology should not be taken lightly nor by the faint of heart.


From an interview with David Jacobs On "The Threat"

http://aliensandchildren.org/InterviewwithProf.htm


Is this what the government knows? Is this the real core story? I think David nails it. He hasn't written on the subject in over 10 years even though his research continues. Is that because he's concluded that there's nothing that can be done about this silent invasion? Yes, and the very thought both stuns him and depresses him. The Earth is slowly and inexorably being incorporated into a Borg. This the reason that any Disclosure will take on a religious and eschatological quality despite the efforts of Exo-polity. The phenomenon can not be controlled and resistance, or even deflection, will ultimately prove to be futile. Don't want to face it? Who can blame you? Maybe it's best to live out these last years immersed in the illusion of freedom laughing at the prospect of incorporation into a malevolent and highly strange new paradigm. "Oh there's nothing to it. Oh it's all just bullshit." Let that denial serve you well. 'Denial Macht Frei,' will serve as a fitting epitaph for the sound and fury show. C'est la vie.

The first step in the Boycott of Everything is the boycott of popular culture. By popular culture I mean the 'spectacle' that's given us by the ruling class as a substitute for authentic existence. The most obvious among these is of course is the rampant consumerism that you've mentioned- but that's only one facet of the problem. If one were to incline towards the principle of 'taking only from existence that which we need' the problem solves itself. But such principle requires serious consideration of authentic needs to start with. We need to be serious about life and its continuance and reject everything that contradicts that basic constraint, as Boycotteverything has indicated ad nauseum on these little stitch and bitches for the better part of the last decade. What is required is a study and an immersion in process and a rejection of snap-shot reality- a realization that we are not tourists here in the Disneyland of the mind. What is required is an overcoming of temporal morality and an approach to transcendent Ethics. Will must give way to Imagination and the real revolution can then proceed. Che said, "At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the real revolutionary is motivated by great feelings of love." That's a decent point of departure. The next step in the process then must be the contemplation of the meaning of 'love' per se or his entire argument has no meaning. It has been said that one must 'love oneself' but this is untrue. Real love is a matter of loving everything that is 'not self.' You can see where this leads. What we require in order to love is nothing less than purging the 'self' as a quality of the loved. To love without regard for self is the highest calling and overcomes the conundrum of 'will' and trivial morality that has led humanity to our present nihilistic impasse. So the boycott of everything can also be reasonably expressed as the boycott of self in the first instance. Self preservation gives way to altruism in such a regime- and opens the door to meaningful existence and immersion in process.

Radio broadcasting began in 1906. The signals betrayed the existence of earth civilization to any advanced ET worlds with the capacity to intercept the signals originating from this planet. The Roswell visitation, I feel, may have been the direct consequence of such interception. That being the case, the Roswell crafts would have originated no more than 41 light years from earth. At this point in time the earth would most likely to have become known to, and visited by, other ET worlds within 104 light years of our solar system. It is also my feeling that the atomic explosions of 1945 taken in conjunction with the radio and television broadcasts would definitely be of interest to any highly developed ET civilization within the 65 light year limits of speed of light signal emanation. Any visiting ET explorers will also no doubt recognize that our species is close to becoming space travelers ourselves. The question then arises: are we perceived as a curiosity or a threat?

And it's also worth noting that the entire case lay dormant for 40 years before it was revived by serious Ufologists like Stan Friedman in the 80s. It was one of those anomalous events that Charles Fort would have called the 'damned.' Don Keyhoe never mentioned it in his UFO expositions in the early 50s. As it turns out all the records of the 509th were mysteriously lost soon after Friedman's research was published. There was and continues to be a tight cover-up in place by the US Gov. What are they covering up? Mogal balloon tests? Crashed V-2 rockets? After 60 years would such cold war nonsense still be worth covering up? The General Twining Memo explains everything in that regard. He concluded in 1947 that we were dealing with ET phenomena and an incipient invasion against which our armed forces had no defense. That was and still is the reason for the cover up.

The first step in the Boycott of Everything is the boycott of popular culture. By popular culture I mean the 'spectacle' that's given us by the ruling class as a substitute for authentic existence. The most obvious among these is of course is the rampant consumerism that you've mentioned- but that's only one facet of the problem. If one were to incline towards the principle of 'taking only from existence that which we need' the problem solves itself. But such principle requires serious consideration of authentic needs to start with. We need to be serious about life and its continuance and reject everything that contradicts that basic constraint, as Boycotteverything has indicated ad nauseum on these little stitch and bitches for the better part of the last decade. What is required is a study and an immersion in process and a rejection of snap-shot reality- a realization that we are not tourists here in the Disneyland of the mind. What is required is an overcoming of temporal morality and an approach to transcendent Ethics. Will must give way to Imagination and the real revolution can then proceed. Che said, "At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the real revolutionary is motived by great feelings of love." That's a decent point of departure. The next step in the process then must be the contemplation of the meaning of 'love' per se or his entire argument has no meaning. It has been said that one must 'love oneself' but this is untrue. Real love is a matter of loving everything that is 'not self.' You can see where this leads. What we require in order to love is nothing less than purging the 'self' as a quality of the loved. To love without regard for self as the highest calling and overcomes the conundrum of 'will' and trivial morality that has led humanity to our present nihilistic impasse. So the boycott of everything can also be reasonably expressed as the boycott of self in the first instance. Self preservation gives way to altruism in such a regime- and opens the door to meaningful existence and immersion in process.

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Philosophy and Ufology



'What the fuck was that?' defines Ufological enquiry. Three questions follow by logical extension and form the impetus for the entire field of speculation.

1. Where do they come from?
2. How did they get here? and-
3. What do they want?

The entirety of the vast body of Ufer literature is devoted- depending on the relative ambition of the author- to answering one or more of those three questions. It's interesting that those very same queries also form the basis of all Philosophical, Metaphysical and Scientific investigation regarding the nature of existence per se.

Drake's Equation and Fermi's paradox are typical of the concomitant blending of the fields. Both beg the largest of questions and demonstrate the futility of scientific method regarding a cohesive theory- the answer to the questions they pose. And why? Because both are based in presuppositions that are themselves unproven. It's the nature of presuppositions to be assumptions derived from anecdotal data. That's actually the contradiction that lies at the heart of all Ontological hypothesis and it necessarily substitutes 'belief' for 'proof' as the foundation of Theory. Such is the nature of human endeavor to provide a proof of any existents beyond the brackets of Logic and is the reason that rationalists insist that logic does not apply to the 'real world' except by the (tenuous) extrapolation of analogy.

So this is the Epistemological dilemma in a nutshell: Every speculation concerning existence is ultimately founded in nothing more 'proven' than a leap of faith. Why should the study of Ufology escape conformity to this universal conundrum?

Does all of this mean that, despite the contradictions and the futility, that the questions ought not be even asked in the first place? Certainly there are those who would say precisely that- that adherence to rational skepticism precludes flights of imaginative speculation. I'm not among them for one simple reason- a simple choice, really- a choice to be curious about the mind of God.

© General Striker News Service, 2009

Econ 101

The US has completed a de facto repudiation of debt. How was this possible and what does it matter? It's possible because capital is essentially amoral. Debt has no other reality than as a monetary instrument regardless of the importunate protests of the lender. Debt is no more than a matter of record keeping. It only becomes overbearing and consequential when it has become imbued with the quality of moral obligation- which is essentially nothing more than a refutation of reality. This is so because money is conjured out of thin air and depends for its value on nothing more substantial than faith. Faith in the value of currency is all that stands between wealth and penury. This is so for nations as well as individuals. It can be said that economic value is actually derived from the production of commodities and, as Marx and the rest of the civilized world would have us believe, the labor required for that very production. But this is not so and has never been so. Economic value is actually determined by the records of bookkeepers. And therefore both accumulation of wealth and the onerous bonds of debt are equally illusory figments. Freedom from economic shackles is simply a matter of tossing the books on the ash bin of history. It is the case that those who are imprisoned by monetary economy must be complicit in their own captivity in order for the bars of the gaol to remain secure. The worst nightmare for the rich is the waking of the people from the cloying hypnosis brought about by the political magicians in their employ. It is of such stuff that economic depressions are constructed. Economic depression is freedom in the last analysis.

After a brief time to reflect on the most recent Koidal Drama I offer this synopsis.

Follow this foodfight at Amkon.

Even before our pizza-faced Quickie Mart slurpee jerker saw fit to accuse BE of issuing threats against the community there was another threat, a real threat, isssued in our name. It began with that most heinous of crimes- that of expropriating Hissels’ very name. In a pique of sanctimonious indignation Pack decided it was a good idea to force his nemesis to demonstrate some obligatory regimen of obeisance and contrition by stealing his very name- creating a website falsely attributed to Hissel that would link anyone searching his band back to the 200 page record of his humiliation at Amkon. The threat? Bow to me come to me with hat in hand, duly apologetic, for re-education. If you refuse- rest assured that your identity now belongs to Pack for the long war of endless torment.

Hazel and the famous Wall of Type

Who was this guy, Hissel, and what was he up to? Hazel answered that mystery early on. Averred she- this is a child at war with his own reality. MissA wondered if he were not a Raskolnikov. But I think that was not that. Hazel’s assessment was that he was in fact more of a Holden Caulfield lashing out at the electronic phonies who inhabit the internetz- and the real world beyond. And with that I agree.

What exactly was his Wall of Type?

What did it say and what was its purpose? To answer that question it is perhaps telling to consider not what it was but rather what it was not. It was not coherent Philosophy or a prolegomena to any Philosophical analysis. It was a manifesto, a spat slogan, a broadside, a shot across the bow of the community. It was not designed to enlighten us but rather to bring attention to a dysfunctional, generic teen-aged mal-content. It said, in effect, I am not You. I am a Necropulse, dead yet breathing, look at me- make me real. Hazel implied all this and she was correct.

The shameless attack

And our response to this perceived challenge? Marginalization, a demand for contrition. In short- gang rape. The leader of the gang?
Disguised as some sort of perverse minister, none other than Pack. For most of the Amkoids, the shitfest was good fun. Nothing serious happening here- just a rapidly tiring mouse for the big cats to toy with for a time. But there was also a moment, shameless in it’s degree of manipulation and degradation, when a line was crossed from playful tossing to sadism. It was the point when Hissels’s very name, the aggregation of his reality, was stolen from him. All your bases are now belong to us. Justice henceforth devoid of mercy. Your being, itself, appropriated for our own uses. This was no ordinary threat- no ‘we’ll beat your sill ass if you don’t comply’ kid of threat. No- this was an existential threat. ‘Be us or be nothing.’ It went well beyond Ducky’s absurd chest thumping challenge, well beyond Mojo’s incisive analysis, well beyond MissA’s motherly comfort, well beyond BE’s cross admonition concerning the use of the word ‘jew’ as a pronoun. The theft of the guy’s identity was more than that- it was an attack on the soul.

The slurpee jerker’s reaction

When I called attention to this very real threat of usurpation, naturally I was called for my own hypocrisy by none other than our Admin of the Year- Skunk. ‘Threat? Well what about you threatening the members here for years?’ he scolded. If there is one certainty in life it is that Skunk will always carry the water for his little gaggle of colleagues regardless of the merits of their positions. His approach is always the same- the proverbial. “So’s your old man.” Unable as he is to formulate any real analysis he relies on the very same method as Hissel to justify his inflated view of his own importance- the Manifesto. But unlike Hissel he does not defer to a Wall of Type- he’s incapable of that. His method has always consisted of carrying the piss bucket for the good ol’ boyz- whether they require one or not. That he could accuse me of issuing threats against the community is nothing short of blood libel. It is not simply untrue but a gratuitous and self-serving lie- the resort of an angsty sophomore when reason is beyond reach.

What should be done?

Hissel’s name should be given back to him. Period. This shameless and vindictive act of electronic theft is unbecoming of a member of Amkon, especially a staff member. Skunk should be shitcanned as an admin. If the rest of the admins, including the semi-retired Mojo, decide that he needs to be replaced there are several good choices here. My own choice would be MrPenny or Homingpigeon or both. Other than that- carry on, kids, and smoke em if ya got em.